Item - 2018.EX30.33

Tracking Status

  • City Council considered this item on January 31, 2018 and referred this item to an official or another committee or body. Consult the text of the decision for further information on the referral.
  • This item was considered by Executive Committee on January 24, 2018. It is being forwarded to City Council without recommendations. It will be considered by City Council on January 31, 2018.
  • See also IA35.1

EX30.33 - Cost of Preventing Information Being Released at Toronto Hydro

Decision Type:
ACTION
Status:
Referred
Wards:
All

City Council Decision

City Council on January 31 and February 1, 2018, referred Item EX30.33 to the Toronto Hydro Board of Directors for further consideration in accordance with the established shareholder direction.

Background Information (Committee)

(December 11, 2017) Letter from City Council referring Administrative Inquiry IA35.1 on the Cost of Preventing Information Being Released at Toronto Hydro
https://www.toronto.ca/legdocs/mmis/2018/ex/bgrd/backgroundfile-110453.pdf
(November 22, 2017) Letter from Councillor Gord Perks on Administrative Inquiry Into the Cost of Preventing Information Being Released at Toronto Hydro
https://www.toronto.ca/legdocs/mmis/2018/ex/bgrd/backgroundfile-110455.pdf
Attachments - Letter dated December 4, 2017 from the City Manager and Letter from the Executive Vice-President Regulatory Affairs and General Counsel of Toronto Hydro Corporation dated December 4, 2017
https://www.toronto.ca/legdocs/mmis/2018/ex/bgrd/backgroundfile-110456.pdf

Motions (City Council)

1 - Motion to Amend Item moved by Councillor Gord Perks (Redundant)

That City Council direct the Toronto Hydro Board to provide the information requested in Administrative Inquiry IA35.1.

Ruling by Speaker Frances Nunziata
Speaker Nunziata ruled motion 1 by Councillor Perks redundant due to Council's adoption of motion 2 by Councillor Holyday.


2 - Motion to Refer Item moved by Councillor Stephen Holyday (Carried)

That City Council refer the item to the Toronto Hydro Board of Directors for further consideration in accordance with the established shareholder direction.

Vote (Refer Item) Feb-01-2018 5:22 PM

Result: Carried Majority Required - EX30.33 - Holyday - motion 2 - Refer the item
Total members that voted Yes: 20 Members that voted Yes are Paul Ainslie, Ana Bail„o, Jon Burnside, John Campbell, Christin Carmichael Greb, Josh Colle, Glenn De Baeremaeker, Justin J. Di Ciano, Mark Grimes, Jim Hart, Stephen Holyday, Norman Kelly, Chin Lee, Mary-Margaret McMahon, Denzil Minnan-Wong, Frances Nunziata (Chair), Cesar Palacio, Michael Thompson, John Tory, Lucy Troisi
Total members that voted No: 18 Members that voted No are Maria Augimeri, Shelley Carroll, Joe Cressy, Vincent Crisanti, Janet Davis, Sarah Doucette, John Filion, Paula Fletcher, Michael Ford, Mary Fragedakis, Jim Karygiannis, Mike Layton, Josh Matlow, Joe Mihevc, Gord Perks, Anthony Perruzza, Neethan Shan, David Shiner
Total members that were Absent: 7 Members that were absent are Gary Crawford, Frank Di Giorgio, Michelle Holland, Giorgio Mammoliti, James Pasternak, Jaye Robinson, Kristyn Wong-Tam

Point of Order by Councillor Gord Perks

Councillor Perks, rising on a Point of Order stated that he wished the Speaker to rule on whether Councillor Holyday's motion 2 is the same as Councillor Perks' motion 1, as in his remarks Councillor Holyday had stated that the effect of his motion would be Council asking for the information requested, which would have the same effect as Councillor Perks' motion.

Ruling by Speaker Frances Nunziata
Speaker Nunziata accepted the Point of Order and ruled that motion 1 by Councillor Perks and motion 2 by Councillor Holyday were not the same.


Point of Order by Councillor Gord Perks

Councillor Perks, rising on a Point of Order stated that he wished to know how his motion and Councillor Holyday's motion were different.

Ruling by Speaker Frances Nunziata
Speaker Nunziata accepted the Point of Order and asked the City Clerk to respond. The City Clerk advised Council that Councillor Holyday's motion 2 is a referral motion, which is different than Councillor Perks' motion 1 directing the Toronto Hydro Board to provide information. The referral motion would be voted on first, and if it carries, Councillor Perks' motion would be redundant.


Point of Privilege by Councillor Stephen Holyday

Councillor Holyday, rising on a Point of Privilege, stated that Councillor Shiner should not predict how a Board member, including himself, would vote on the request for information.

Ruling by Speaker Frances Nunziata
Speaker Nunziata accepted the Point of Privilege and thanked Councillor Holyday for his comments. Councillor Shiner apologized to Councillor Holyday for assuming how he would vote on this request.


Motion to Remove from Committee moved by Councillor Gord Perks (Lost)

Febraury 1, 2018 at 5:30 p.m. - That in accordance with Section 27-60 of Council Procedures, City Council remove Item EX21.17, headed "Toronto Hydro's Hired Consulting Firms” from the Executive Committee and bring the Item forward to City Council for consideration.

Vote (Remove from Committee) Feb-01-2018 5:30 PM

Result: Lost Two-Thirds Required - Procedural motion - remove EX21.17 from committee
Total members that voted Yes: 20 Members that voted Yes are Maria Augimeri, Jon Burnside, John Campbell, Shelley Carroll, Joe Cressy, Vincent Crisanti, Janet Davis, Sarah Doucette, John Filion, Paula Fletcher, Michael Ford, Mary Fragedakis, Jim Hart, Jim Karygiannis, Mike Layton, Josh Matlow, Joe Mihevc, Gord Perks, Anthony Perruzza, Neethan Shan
Total members that voted No: 18 Members that voted No are Paul Ainslie, Ana Bail„o, Christin Carmichael Greb, Josh Colle, Glenn De Baeremaeker, Justin J. Di Ciano, Mark Grimes, Stephen Holyday, Norman Kelly, Chin Lee, Mary-Margaret McMahon, Denzil Minnan-Wong, Frances Nunziata (Chair), Cesar Palacio, David Shiner, Michael Thompson, John Tory, Lucy Troisi
Total members that were Absent: 7 Members that were absent are Gary Crawford, Frank Di Giorgio, Michelle Holland, Giorgio Mammoliti, James Pasternak, Jaye Robinson, Kristyn Wong-Tam

Point of Order by Councillor Gord Perks

Councillor Perks, rising on a Point of Order, stated that he wished to place a motion to remove Item EX21.17 from Committee and wanted to know if he could place his motion at this time.

Ruling by Speaker Frances Nunziata
Speaker Nunziata accepted the Point of Order and ruled that Councillor Perks could place his motion.


Point of Order by Councillor John Campbell

Councillor Campbell rising on a Point of Order, stated that he wished to understand whether the Item Councillor Perks wished to remove from Committee was the same Item that City Council just referred to the Toronto Hydro Board.

Ruling by Speaker Frances Nunziata
Speaker Nunziata accepted the Point of Order and asked the City Clerk to respond. The City Clerk advised City Council that the Item Councillor Perks wished to remove from Committee was a different Item.

Rulings (City Council)

Ruling by Speaker Frances Nunziata
Speaker Nunziata ruled that Councillor Di Ciano should ask questions of clarification only on Councillor Holyday's referral motion.

EX30.33 - Cost of Preventing Information Being Released at Toronto Hydro

Decision Type:
ACTION
Status:
Without Recs
Wards:
All

Committee Recommendations

The Executive Committee forwards the item to City Council without recommendation.

Origin

(December 11, 2017) Letter from the City Council referring Administrative Inquiry IA35.1 and Answer IA35.1a

Summary

City Council on December 5, 6, 7 and 8, 2017, referred Administrative Inquiry IA35.1 from Councillor Gord Perks, Ward 14, Parkdale-High Park regarding the cost of preventing information being released at Toronto Hydro and Answer IA35.1a from the City Manager to the Executive Committee for consideration.

Background Information

(December 11, 2017) Letter from City Council referring Administrative Inquiry IA35.1 on the Cost of Preventing Information Being Released at Toronto Hydro
https://www.toronto.ca/legdocs/mmis/2018/ex/bgrd/backgroundfile-110453.pdf
(November 22, 2017) Letter from Councillor Gord Perks on Administrative Inquiry Into the Cost of Preventing Information Being Released at Toronto Hydro
https://www.toronto.ca/legdocs/mmis/2018/ex/bgrd/backgroundfile-110455.pdf
Attachments - Letter dated December 4, 2017 from the City Manager and Letter from the Executive Vice-President Regulatory Affairs and General Counsel of Toronto Hydro Corporation dated December 4, 2017
https://www.toronto.ca/legdocs/mmis/2018/ex/bgrd/backgroundfile-110456.pdf

Speakers

Riley Peterson
Derek Moran
Councillor Gord Perks

Motions

Motion to forward item Without Recommendations moved by Councillor David Shiner (Carried)

That the item be forwarded to City Council without recommendation.

Source: Toronto City Clerk at www.toronto.ca/council