Item - 2017.PW23.10
Tracking Status
- City Council adopted this item on October 2, 2017 with amendments.
- This item was considered by Public Works and Infrastructure Committee on September 19, 2017. It is being forwarded to City Council without recommendations. It will be considered by City Council on October 2, 2017.
PW23.10 - Addition of Former Municipalities Logos on Street Name Signs
- Decision Type:
- ACTION
- Status:
- Amended
- Wards:
- All
City Council Decision
City Council on October 2, 3 and 4, 2017, adopted the following:
1. City Council approve the addition of the former Borough of East York logo and the legacy Cities logos on replacement and new street name signs within the boundaries of the former Borough of East York and within the boundaries of the legacy Cities, based on the middle sample in Attachment 1 to the report (September 5, 2017) from the General Manager, Transportation Services, and City Council direct that the estimated $1,000 to $12,500 cost for the East York and legacy Cities signs be funded from within the Transportation Services Operating Budget.
Background Information (Committee)
https://www.toronto.ca/legdocs/mmis/2017/pw/bgrd/backgroundfile-106578.pdf
Attachment 1: Sample Street Name Signs with Logo
https://www.toronto.ca/legdocs/mmis/2017/pw/bgrd/backgroundfile-106579.pdf
Communications (Committee)
https://www.toronto.ca/legdocs/mmis/2017/pw/comm/communicationfile-71940.pdf
(September 18, 2017) E-mail from Jamie Maracle (PW.New.PW23.10.2)
(September 18, 2017) E-mail from Mark Mycyk (PW.New.PW23.10.3)
(September 18, 2017) E-mail from Matthew Chung (PW.New.PW23.10.4)
(September 18, 2017) E-mail from Natalie Neill (PW.New.PW23.10.5)
(September 18, 2017) E-mail from Ron Chamberlain (PW.New.PW23.10.6)
(September 18, 2017) E-mail from Wanda Chamberlain (PW.New.PW23.10.7)
(September 18, 2017) E-mail from Melody Johnson (PW.New.PW23.10.8)
(September 19, 2017) E-mail from Tom Carter (PW.New.PW23.10.9)
(September 19, 2017) E-mail from Margaret Trottier (PW.New.PW23.10.10)
(September 19, 2017) E-mail from Rob Cacciottolo (PW.New.PW23.10.11)
(September 19, 2017) E-mail from Joseph Park (PW.New.PW23.10.12)
Communications (City Council)
(September 26, 2017) E-mail from Sandra Lewis (CC.Main.PW23.10.14)
(September 27, 2017) E-mail from Wayne Trinier (CC.Supp.PW23.10.15)
(October 2, 2017) E-mail from Jeffrey Brown (CC.New.PW23.10.16)
(October 10, 2017) Letter from Justin Van Dette, Treasurer, Parkview Hills Community Association (CC.New.PW23.10.17)
https://www.toronto.ca/legdocs/mmis/2017/cc/comm/communicationfile-72524.pdf
(October 4, 2017) E-mail from Anna Tsirakidis (CC.New.PW23.10.18)
Motions (City Council)
That City Council approve the addition of the former Borough of East York logo on replacement and new street name signs within the boundaries of the former Borough of East York, based on the middle sample in Attachment 1 to the report (September 5, 2017) from the General Manager, Transportation Services, and City Council direct that the estimated $1,000 cost for the East York signs be funded from within the Transportation Services Operating Budget.
Vote (Amend Item) Oct-04-2017 8:09 PM
| Result: Carried | Majority Required - PW23.10 - Davis - motion 1 |
|---|---|
| Total members that voted Yes: 27 | Members that voted Yes are Paul Ainslie, Maria Augimeri, Jon Burnside, Christin Carmichael Greb, Shelley Carroll, Vincent Crisanti, Janet Davis, Glenn De Baeremaeker, Frank Di Giorgio, Sarah Doucette, Paula Fletcher, Mary Fragedakis, Mark Grimes, Jim Hart, Michelle Holland, Mike Layton, Chin Lee, Josh Matlow, Mary-Margaret McMahon, Joe Mihevc, Denzil Minnan-Wong, Frances Nunziata (Chair), Gord Perks, Anthony Perruzza, Neethan Shan, John Tory, Kristyn Wong-Tam |
| Total members that voted No: 10 | Members that voted No are Ana Bailão, Gary Crawford, Joe Cressy, Justin J. Di Ciano, Michael Ford, Stephen Holyday, Norman Kelly, Cesar Palacio, Jaye Robinson, Michael Thompson |
| Total members that were Absent: 7 | Members that were absent are John Campbell, Josh Colle, John Filion, Jim Karygiannis, Giorgio Mammoliti, James Pasternak, David Shiner |
Vote (Amend Item) Oct-04-2017 8:13 PM
| Result: Carried | Majority Required - PW23.10 - Davis - motion 1 - REVOTE |
|---|---|
| Total members that voted Yes: 26 | Members that voted Yes are Paul Ainslie, Maria Augimeri, Christin Carmichael Greb, Shelley Carroll, Vincent Crisanti, Janet Davis, Glenn De Baeremaeker, Frank Di Giorgio, Sarah Doucette, Paula Fletcher, Mary Fragedakis, Mark Grimes, Jim Hart, Michelle Holland, Mike Layton, Chin Lee, Josh Matlow, Mary-Margaret McMahon, Joe Mihevc, Denzil Minnan-Wong, Frances Nunziata (Chair), Gord Perks, Anthony Perruzza, Neethan Shan, John Tory, Kristyn Wong-Tam |
| Total members that voted No: 11 | Members that voted No are Ana Bailão, Jon Burnside, Gary Crawford, Joe Cressy, Justin J. Di Ciano, Michael Ford, Stephen Holyday, Norman Kelly, Cesar Palacio, Jaye Robinson, Michael Thompson |
| Total members that were Absent: 7 | Members that were absent are John Campbell, Josh Colle, John Filion, Jim Karygiannis, Giorgio Mammoliti, James Pasternak, David Shiner |
That in accordance with the provisions of Chapter 27, Council Procedures, City Council reconsider motion 1 by Councillor Davis.
That consideration of the item be deferred until the November 7, 8 and 9, 2017 meeting of City Council with a request that the Toronto Accessibility Advisory Committee submit comments to City Council on this matter.
Vote (Defer Item) Oct-04-2017 7:56 PM
| Result: Lost | Majority Required - PW 23.10 - Robinson - motion 2 - Defer the item |
|---|---|
| Total members that voted Yes: 18 | Members that voted Yes are Paul Ainslie, Ana Bailão, Jon Burnside, Gary Crawford, Joe Cressy, Vincent Crisanti, Justin J. Di Ciano, Michael Ford, Jim Hart, Michelle Holland, Stephen Holyday, Jim Karygiannis, Norman Kelly, Josh Matlow, Frances Nunziata (Chair), Cesar Palacio, Jaye Robinson, Kristyn Wong-Tam |
| Total members that voted No: 19 | Members that voted No are Maria Augimeri, Christin Carmichael Greb, Shelley Carroll, Janet Davis, Glenn De Baeremaeker, Frank Di Giorgio, Sarah Doucette, Paula Fletcher, Mary Fragedakis, Mark Grimes, Mike Layton, Chin Lee, Mary-Margaret McMahon, Joe Mihevc, Gord Perks, Anthony Perruzza, Neethan Shan, Michael Thompson, John Tory |
| Total members that were Absent: 7 | Members that were absent are John Campbell, Josh Colle, John Filion, Giorgio Mammoliti, Denzil Minnan-Wong, James Pasternak, David Shiner |
That City Council approve the addition of the legacy Cities logos on replacement and new street name signs within the boundaries of the legacy Cities, based on the middle sample in Attachment 1 to the report (September 5, 2017) from the General Manager, Transportation Services, and City Council direct that the estimated $10,000 to $12,500 cost for the legacy Cities signs be funded from within the Transportation Services Operating Budget.
Vote (Amend Item) Oct-04-2017 8:10 PM
| Result: Carried | Majority Required - PW23.10 - Fragedakis - motion 3 |
|---|---|
| Total members that voted Yes: 28 | Members that voted Yes are Paul Ainslie, Maria Augimeri, Jon Burnside, Christin Carmichael Greb, Shelley Carroll, Vincent Crisanti, Janet Davis, Glenn De Baeremaeker, Justin J. Di Ciano, Frank Di Giorgio, Sarah Doucette, Paula Fletcher, Mary Fragedakis, Mark Grimes, Jim Hart, Michelle Holland, Mike Layton, Chin Lee, Josh Matlow, Mary-Margaret McMahon, Joe Mihevc, Frances Nunziata (Chair), Cesar Palacio, Gord Perks, Anthony Perruzza, Neethan Shan, John Tory, Kristyn Wong-Tam |
| Total members that voted No: 9 | Members that voted No are Ana Bailão, Gary Crawford, Joe Cressy, Michael Ford, Stephen Holyday, Norman Kelly, Denzil Minnan-Wong, Jaye Robinson, Michael Thompson |
| Total members that were Absent: 7 | Members that were absent are John Campbell, Josh Colle, John Filion, Jim Karygiannis, Giorgio Mammoliti, James Pasternak, David Shiner |
That City Council direct the General Manager, Transportation Services to add logos for former municipalities to street name signs in those wards where the local Councillor has provided a written request for their addition to the General Manager, Transportation Services.
That the item be received for information.
Vote (Receive Item) Oct-04-2017 8:08 PM
| Result: Lost | Majority Required - PW23.10 - Holyday - motion 5 - Receive the item |
|---|---|
| Total members that voted Yes: 9 | Members that voted Yes are Ana Bailão, Gary Crawford, Joe Cressy, Michael Ford, Stephen Holyday, Norman Kelly, Cesar Palacio, Jaye Robinson, Michael Thompson |
| Total members that voted No: 27 | Members that voted No are Paul Ainslie, Maria Augimeri, Jon Burnside, Christin Carmichael Greb, Shelley Carroll, Vincent Crisanti, Janet Davis, Glenn De Baeremaeker, Justin J. Di Ciano, Frank Di Giorgio, Sarah Doucette, Paula Fletcher, Mary Fragedakis, Mark Grimes, Jim Hart, Michelle Holland, Mike Layton, Chin Lee, Josh Matlow, Mary-Margaret McMahon, Joe Mihevc, Frances Nunziata (Chair), Gord Perks, Anthony Perruzza, Neethan Shan, John Tory, Kristyn Wong-Tam |
| Total members that were Absent: 8 | Members that were absent are John Campbell, Josh Colle, John Filion, Jim Karygiannis, Giorgio Mammoliti, Denzil Minnan-Wong, James Pasternak, David Shiner |
That in accordance with the provisions of Chapter 27, Council Procedures, City Council end the debate on Item PW23.10 and take the vote immediately.
Vote (End Debate) Oct-04-2017 8:01 PM
| Result: Lost | Two-Thirds Required - PW23.10 - Karygiannis - End debate |
|---|---|
| Total members that voted Yes: 23 | Members that voted Yes are Maria Augimeri, Ana Bailão, Christin Carmichael Greb, Shelley Carroll, Joe Cressy, Vincent Crisanti, Janet Davis, Justin J. Di Ciano, Frank Di Giorgio, Paula Fletcher, Mark Grimes, Jim Hart, Michelle Holland, Jim Karygiannis, Norman Kelly, Mike Layton, Chin Lee, Joe Mihevc, Frances Nunziata (Chair), Cesar Palacio, Gord Perks, Neethan Shan, Michael Thompson |
| Total members that voted No: 14 | Members that voted No are Paul Ainslie, Jon Burnside, Gary Crawford, Glenn De Baeremaeker, Sarah Doucette, Michael Ford, Mary Fragedakis, Stephen Holyday, Josh Matlow, Mary-Margaret McMahon, Anthony Perruzza, Jaye Robinson, John Tory, Kristyn Wong-Tam |
| Total members that were Absent: 7 | Members that were absent are John Campbell, Josh Colle, John Filion, Giorgio Mammoliti, Denzil Minnan-Wong, James Pasternak, David Shiner |
Councillor Davis, rising on a Point of Order, stated that she wished to confirm that if her motion 1 carries it does not make motion 3 by Councillor Fragedakis redundant.
Councillor De Baeremaeker, rising on a Point of Order, stated that it was his understanding that Councillor Burnside's motion 4 was to be an opting out and not contrary to the other motions.
PW23.10 - Addition of Former Municipalities Logos on Street Name Signs
- Decision Type:
- ACTION
- Status:
- Without Recs
- Wards:
- All
Committee Recommendations
The Public Works and Infrastructure Committee submits the item to City Council without recommendation as all motions lost on tie votes.
Origin
Summary
This report responds to a request from City Council to assess the feasibility of adding the former municipality of East York logo and former municipality of Scarborough logo and/or flag to new or replacement street name signs within the boundaries of the former municipalities of East York and Scarborough.
The City of Toronto has an existing standard for the design of street name signage, creating a single sign that can be used throughout the City as a modern and contemporary identifying feature of public space that reflects the amalgamated City of Toronto. This standard includes opportunities for Business Improvement Area's, community, or neighbourhood branding on the 'upper blade' of the sign.
Adding the logos for former municipalities to new signs (and those needing replacement) is feasible. However, the Corporate Identity Program's Policy directs City staff to maintain a unified corporate identity that enables the public to clearly recognize City of Toronto facilities. Accordingly, since amalgamation, there has been an effort to clarify and simplify street name signs. Adding the logos for former municipalities would, be in conflict with the Corporate Identity Program Policy.
It is anticipated that City Councillors representing wards of other former municipalities (Etobicoke, North York, Toronto and York) may also wish to have logos applied to street name signs. Therefore, this report considers the feasibility and impacts of placing logos on all new and replacement street name signs across the entire city.
Background Information
https://www.toronto.ca/legdocs/mmis/2017/pw/bgrd/backgroundfile-106578.pdf
Attachment 1: Sample Street Name Signs with Logo
https://www.toronto.ca/legdocs/mmis/2017/pw/bgrd/backgroundfile-106579.pdf
Communications
https://www.toronto.ca/legdocs/mmis/2017/pw/comm/communicationfile-71940.pdf
(September 18, 2017) E-mail from Jamie Maracle (PW.New.PW23.10.2)
(September 18, 2017) E-mail from Mark Mycyk (PW.New.PW23.10.3)
(September 18, 2017) E-mail from Matthew Chung (PW.New.PW23.10.4)
(September 18, 2017) E-mail from Natalie Neill (PW.New.PW23.10.5)
(September 18, 2017) E-mail from Ron Chamberlain (PW.New.PW23.10.6)
(September 18, 2017) E-mail from Wanda Chamberlain (PW.New.PW23.10.7)
(September 18, 2017) E-mail from Melody Johnson (PW.New.PW23.10.8)
(September 19, 2017) E-mail from Tom Carter (PW.New.PW23.10.9)
(September 19, 2017) E-mail from Margaret Trottier (PW.New.PW23.10.10)
(September 19, 2017) E-mail from Rob Cacciottolo (PW.New.PW23.10.11)
(September 19, 2017) E-mail from Joseph Park (PW.New.PW23.10.12)
Speakers
Miroslav Glavic
Carol Burtin-Fripp, Leaside Property Owners Association
Councillor Mary Fragedakis
Councillor Janet Davis
Motions
That:
City Council approve as per the middle option in Attachment 1 to the report (September 5, 2017) from the General Manager, Transportation Services the addition of the logo of the former Borough of East York on replacement and new street name signs within the boundaries of the former Borough of East York, with the estimated $3,000 to $4,000 cost to be found internally in the Transportation Services operating budget, and that the Corporate Identity Policy be amended accordingly.
Vote (Amend Item) Sep-19-2017
| Result: Lost (tie) | Majority Required |
|---|---|
| Total members that voted Yes: 3 | Members that voted Yes are Christin Carmichael Greb, Chin Lee, Anthony Perruzza |
| Total members that voted No: 3 | Members that voted No are Stephen Holyday, Giorgio Mammoliti, Jaye Robinson (Chair) |
| Total members that were Absent: 0 | Members that were absent are |
Request the General Manager, Transportation Services to report to the Public Works and Infrastructure Committee at its November 28, 2017 meeting on the feasibility of incorporating neighbourhood identifiers on street name signs.
Vote (Amend Item) Sep-19-2017
| Result: Lost (tie) | Majority Required |
|---|---|
| Total members that voted Yes: 3 | Members that voted Yes are Chin Lee, Giorgio Mammoliti, Jaye Robinson (Chair) |
| Total members that voted No: 3 | Members that voted No are Christin Carmichael Greb, Stephen Holyday, Anthony Perruzza |
| Total members that were Absent: 0 | Members that were absent are |
That City Council forward the item to the Toronto Accessibility Advisory Committee for consideration.
Vote (Adopt Item) Sep-19-2017
| Result: Lost (tie) | Majority Required |
|---|---|
| Total members that voted Yes: 3 | Members that voted Yes are Stephen Holyday, Giorgio Mammoliti, Jaye Robinson (Chair) |
| Total members that voted No: 3 | Members that voted No are Christin Carmichael Greb, Chin Lee, Anthony Perruzza |
| Total members that were Absent: 0 | Members that were absent are |
That Councillor Holiday's Motion 3 be withdrawn.